Letter to Thomas Kite, Bookseller, from Thomas S. Grimke, December 17, 1832

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    Charleston 17th Decr. 1832 Esteemed Friend The enclosed estate to a Lawsuit in Roaws County Pennsylvania. The [illegible] is an extract of a letter from John L Fuller, Gettysburgh 23d Aug. last and the other of a letter from Eli K. Prince Philadelphia 21 Novr. 1832—My [illegible] here, who has placed them in my hands, had consulted me upon the matter: and I have told him [after examining these two other letters not material to the object now in view] that my opinion was unfavorable; but that were it my case I should consult Wm. Briney[?] or Mr. C. Chaimey[?] on the sub- ject; unless I know Mr Price to be a Lawyer of such high standing in the propulsion; that I should be quite later hid with his opinion. Non, therefore, my good friend, I [illegible] infer this question to you. If you know Mr P. [illegible] of such high standing, that were it your case, you would not be disposed to consult Mr. Chameyor Mr. Brimey, then [illegible] the enclosed by the L.C. and say no more about the matter; [illegible] otherwise, them [illegible] you would have the enclosed to Mr B. or Mr. C., as you may decide [illegible] and request an opinion [illegible] it: mentioning that cunning from one, and if [illegible] mention the names of the Lawyer [illegible] F.J P. and the reason of our consulting Mr. B or M V C. Leave the extract, with which you may [illegible], request him to unite to me [illegible] [End page 1] a day as he can, to state in the Letter the charge for the opinion, and I will [illegible] that it is paid. If I know what was customary or reasonable in such a case, I should have provided otherwise. But as it is, I can do us otherwise, than leave it to the one you may [illegible]. Perhaps, you may wish some [illegible] of opinion, as to which [illegible]won it by our case. Lt me then say, that I should be perfectly [illegible] with Mr C.C. as he is an old and valued acquaintance, I may almost say friend: and be: cause, as far as [illegible] been able to learn there is but little difference between himself and Mr B. [illegible] together you must finally judge and do whatever you think. You may say to Mr Burr Mr C. that I should have written myself; [illegible] the uncertainty of Mr Prince’s standing at the bar, upon which my farther opinion defend. I can tell you little also about the state of things here, into what our Newspapers say. [It’s?] very certain that great preparations are making at the [ports?] in our harbor: and that there will be a most ample force here before the [illegible] January to exist any at- tempt that might be made upon the U.S. [stations?]. No doubt before the [illegible] Why we shall have a strong naval force, in addition to the [illegible] here. [End page 2] The Legislature is still in [illegible], and what they may finally do, after the Proclamation, it is impossible to say. The Pamphlet, which I sent the other day to Sally thro’ the Fort office, will tell what I think, and my individual opinions and solution. God only knows how it is to ind: eventually [illegible] the [illegible] of the Union, I do not doubt; but I began to fear, it will be with much distress and misery to us: perhaps, with the loss of many a life. The Leaders are in a [illegible] state and there lies the great dangers. They have nothing to hope for, except in a violent [illegible]: and nothing to hope, I should equally say, if the matter and without such a catastrophe. If the Gene- ral Government will accommodate their laws to the [illegible], as [illegible] in my Letter to the People of So. Ca. by establishing the Custom house at the fort, and making the Office of the Army and Navy the Collection and other Cus- tom house officers [illegible], I see no chance of blood- shed, or civil commotion, none certainly, unless the [illegible] should be so daring as to attack the navy or fort: that I believe they could not be brought to do, under any circumstances—Love to S.A. H. and MA. and kind re- membrance to all friends Yours Truly Thos. S. Grimke Reply to this as son as you deter- mine what had best be done [End page 3] Of Mr Brinney’s [illegible] Town meeting against the election of Genl Jackson was published in pamphlet form—pray send me a copy. [To:] Thomas [Kile or Kite] Bookseller Philadelphia [From:] Thomas S. Grimke 12 17 1832 [End page 4]
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    Charleston 17th Decr. 1832 Esteemed Friend The enclosed estate to a Lawsuit in Roaws County Pennsylvania. The [illegible] is an extract of a letter from John L Fuller, Gettysburgh 23d Aug. last and the other of a letter from Eli K. Prince Philadelphia 21 Novr. 1832—My [illegible] here, who has placed them in my hands, had consulted me upon the matter: and I have told him [after examining these two other letters not material to the object now in view] that my opinion was unfavorable; but that were it my case I should consult Wm. Briney[?] or Mr. C. Chaimey[?] on the sub- ject; unless I know Mr Price to be a Lawyer of such high standing in the propulsion; that I should be quite later hid with his opinion. Non, therefore, my good friend, I [illegible] infer this question to you. If you know Mr P. [illegible] of such high standing, that were it your case, you would not be disposed to consult Mr. Chameyor Mr. Brimey, then [illegible] the enclosed by the L.C. and say no more about the matter; [illegible] otherwise, them [illegible] you would have the enclosed to Mr B. or Mr. C., as you may decide [illegible] and request an opinion [illegible] it: mentioning that cunning from one, and if [illegible] mention the names of the Lawyer [illegible] F.J P. and the reason of our consulting Mr. B or M V C. Leave the extract, with which you may [illegible], request him to unite to me [illegible] [End page 1] a day as he can, to state in the Letter the charge for the opinion, and I will [illegible] that it is paid. If I know what was customary or reasonable in such a case, I should have provided otherwise. But as it is, I can do us otherwise, than leave it to the one you may [illegible]. Perhaps, you may wish some [illegible] of opinion, as to which [illegible]won it by our case. Lt me then say, that I should be perfectly [illegible] with Mr C.C. as he is an old and valued acquaintance, I may almost say friend: and be: cause, as far as [illegible] been able to learn there is but little difference between himself and Mr B. [illegible] together you must finally judge and do whatever you think. You may say to Mr Burr Mr C. that I should have written myself; [illegible] the uncertainty of Mr Prince’s standing at the bar, upon which my farther opinion defend. I can tell you little also about the state of things here, into what our Newspapers say. [It’s?] very certain that great preparations are making at the [ports?] in our harbor: and that there will be a most ample force here before the [illegible] January to exist any at- tempt that might be made upon the U.S. [stations?]. No doubt before the [illegible] Why we shall have a strong naval force, in addition to the [illegible] here. [End page 2] The Legislature is still in [illegible], and what they may finally do, after the Proclamation, it is impossible to say. The Pamphlet, which I sent the other day to Sally thro’ the Fort office, will tell what I think, and my individual opinions and solution. God only knows how it is to ind: eventually [illegible] the [illegible] of the Union, I do not doubt; but I began to fear, it will be with much distress and misery to us: perhaps, with the loss of many a life. The Leaders are in a [illegible] state and there lies the great dangers. They have nothing to hope for, except in a violent [illegible]: and nothing to hope, I should equally say, if the matter and without such a catastrophe. If the Gene- ral Government will accommodate their laws to the [illegible], as [illegible] in my Letter to the People of So. Ca. by establishing the Custom house at the fort, and making the Office of the Army and Navy the Collection and other Cus- tom house officers [illegible], I see no chance of blood- shed, or civil commotion, none certainly, unless the [illegible] should be so daring as to attack the navy or fort: that I believe they could not be brought to do, under any circumstances—Love to S.A. H. and MA. and kind re- membrance to all friends Yours Truly Thos. S. Grimke Reply to this as son as you deter- mine what had best be done [End page 3] Of Mr Brinney’s [illegible] Town meeting against the election of Genl Jackson was published in pamphlet form—pray send me a copy. [To:] Thomas [Kile or Kite] Bookseller Philadelphia [From:] Thomas S. Grimke 12 17 1832 [End page 4]
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    Charleston 17th Decr. 1832 Esteemed Friend The enclosed estate to a Lawsuit in Roaws County Pennsylvania. The [illegible] is an extract of a letter from John L Fuller, Gettysburgh 23d Aug. last and the other of a letter from Eli K. Prince Philadelphia 21 Novr. 1832—My [illegible] here, who has placed them in my hands, had consulted me upon the matter: and I have told him [after examining these two other letters not material to the object now in view] that my opinion was unfavorable; but that were it my case I should consult Wm. Briney[?] or Mr. C. Chaimey[?] on the sub- ject; unless I know Mr Price to be a Lawyer of such high standing in the propulsion; that I should be quite later hid with his opinion. Non, therefore, my good friend, I [illegible] infer this question to you. If you know Mr P. [illegible] of such high standing, that were it your case, you would not be disposed to consult Mr. Chameyor Mr. Brimey, then [illegible] the enclosed by the L.C. and say no more about the matter; [illegible] otherwise, them [illegible] you would have the enclosed to Mr B. or Mr. C., as you may decide [illegible] and request an opinion [illegible] it: mentioning that cunning from one, and if [illegible] mention the names of the Lawyer [illegible] F.J P. and the reason of our consulting Mr. B or M V C. Leave the extract, with which you may [illegible], request him to unite to me [illegible] [End page 1] a day as he can, to state in the Letter the charge for the opinion, and I will [illegible] that it is paid. If I know what was customary or reasonable in such a case, I should have provided otherwise. But as it is, I can do us otherwise, than leave it to the one you may [illegible]. Perhaps, you may wish some [illegible] of opinion, as to which [illegible]won it by our case. Lt me then say, that I should be perfectly [illegible] with Mr C.C. as he is an old and valued acquaintance, I may almost say friend: and be: cause, as far as [illegible] been able to learn there is but little difference between himself and Mr B. [illegible] together you must finally judge and do whatever you think. You may say to Mr Burr Mr C. that I should have written myself; [illegible] the uncertainty of Mr Prince’s standing at the bar, upon which my farther opinion defend. I can tell you little also about the state of things here, into what our Newspapers say. [It’s?] very certain that great preparations are making at the [ports?] in our harbor: and that there will be a most ample force here before the [illegible] January to exist any at- tempt that might be made upon the U.S. [stations?]. No doubt before the [illegible] Why we shall have a strong naval force, in addition to the [illegible] here. [End page 2] The Legislature is still in [illegible], and what they may finally do, after the Proclamation, it is impossible to say. The Pamphlet, which I sent the other day to Sally thro’ the Fort office, will tell what I think, and my individual opinions and solution. God only knows how it is to ind: eventually [illegible] the [illegible] of the Union, I do not doubt; but I began to fear, it will be with much distress and misery to us: perhaps, with the loss of many a life. The Leaders are in a [illegible] state and there lies the great dangers. They have nothing to hope for, except in a violent [illegible]: and nothing to hope, I should equally say, if the matter and without such a catastrophe. If the Gene- ral Government will accommodate their laws to the [illegible], as [illegible] in my Letter to the People of So. Ca. by establishing the Custom house at the fort, and making the Office of the Army and Navy the Collection and other Cus- tom house officers [illegible], I see no chance of blood- shed, or civil commotion, none certainly, unless the [illegible] should be so daring as to attack the navy or fort: that I believe they could not be brought to do, under any circumstances—Love to S.A. H. and MA. and kind re- membrance to all friends Yours Truly Thos. S. Grimke Reply to this as son as you deter- mine what had best be done [End page 3] Of Mr Brinney’s [illegible] Town meeting against the election of Genl Jackson was published in pamphlet form—pray send me a copy. [To:] Thomas [Kile or Kite] Bookseller Philadelphia [From:] Thomas S. Grimke 12 17 1832 [End page 4]
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    Charleston 17th Decr. 1832 Esteemed Friend The enclosed estate to a Lawsuit in Roaws County Pennsylvania. The [illegible] is an extract of a letter from John L Fuller, Gettysburgh 23d Aug. last and the other of a letter from Eli K. Prince Philadelphia 21 Novr. 1832—My [illegible] here, who has placed them in my hands, had consulted me upon the matter: and I have told him [after examining these two other letters not material to the object now in view] that my opinion was unfavorable; but that were it my case I should consult Wm. Briney[?] or Mr. C. Chaimey[?] on the sub- ject; unless I know Mr Price to be a Lawyer of such high standing in the propulsion; that I should be quite later hid with his opinion. Non, therefore, my good friend, I [illegible] infer this question to you. If you know Mr P. [illegible] of such high standing, that were it your case, you would not be disposed to consult Mr. Chameyor Mr. Brimey, then [illegible] the enclosed by the L.C. and say no more about the matter; [illegible] otherwise, them [illegible] you would have the enclosed to Mr B. or Mr. C., as you may decide [illegible] and request an opinion [illegible] it: mentioning that cunning from one, and if [illegible] mention the names of the Lawyer [illegible] F.J P. and the reason of our consulting Mr. B or M V C. Leave the extract, with which you may [illegible], request him to unite to me [illegible] [End page 1] a day as he can, to state in the Letter the charge for the opinion, and I will [illegible] that it is paid. If I know what was customary or reasonable in such a case, I should have provided otherwise. But as it is, I can do us otherwise, than leave it to the one you may [illegible]. Perhaps, you may wish some [illegible] of opinion, as to which [illegible]won it by our case. Lt me then say, that I should be perfectly [illegible] with Mr C.C. as he is an old and valued acquaintance, I may almost say friend: and be: cause, as far as [illegible] been able to learn there is but little difference between himself and Mr B. [illegible] together you must finally judge and do whatever you think. You may say to Mr Burr Mr C. that I should have written myself; [illegible] the uncertainty of Mr Prince’s standing at the bar, upon which my farther opinion defend. I can tell you little also about the state of things here, into what our Newspapers say. [It’s?] very certain that great preparations are making at the [ports?] in our harbor: and that there will be a most ample force here before the [illegible] January to exist any at- tempt that might be made upon the U.S. [stations?]. No doubt before the [illegible] Why we shall have a strong naval force, in addition to the [illegible] here. [End page 2] The Legislature is still in [illegible], and what they may finally do, after the Proclamation, it is impossible to say. The Pamphlet, which I sent the other day to Sally thro’ the Fort office, will tell what I think, and my individual opinions and solution. God only knows how it is to ind: eventually [illegible] the [illegible] of the Union, I do not doubt; but I began to fear, it will be with much distress and misery to us: perhaps, with the loss of many a life. The Leaders are in a [illegible] state and there lies the great dangers. They have nothing to hope for, except in a violent [illegible]: and nothing to hope, I should equally say, if the matter and without such a catastrophe. If the Gene- ral Government will accommodate their laws to the [illegible], as [illegible] in my Letter to the People of So. Ca. by establishing the Custom house at the fort, and making the Office of the Army and Navy the Collection and other Cus- tom house officers [illegible], I see no chance of blood- shed, or civil commotion, none certainly, unless the [illegible] should be so daring as to attack the navy or fort: that I believe they could not be brought to do, under any circumstances—Love to S.A. H. and MA. and kind re- membrance to all friends Yours Truly Thos. S. Grimke Reply to this as son as you deter- mine what had best be done [End page 3] Of Mr Brinney’s [illegible] Town meeting against the election of Genl Jackson was published in pamphlet form—pray send me a copy. [To:] Thomas [Kile or Kite] Bookseller Philadelphia [From:] Thomas S. Grimke 12 17 1832 [End page 4]
Title:
Letter to Thomas Kite, Bookseller, from Thomas S. Grimke, December 17, 1832
Creator:
Grimke, Thomas Smith, 1786-1834
Date:
1832-12-17
Description:
A letter from Thomas S. Grimke to Philadelphia bookseller Thomas Kite, asking his opinion of Mr. Price, an attorney, but also giving details on military preparations and a fear of violence over the nullification issue in Charleston.
Collection:
Grimke family papers, 1678-1977
Contributing Institution:
College of Charleston Libraries
Media Type:
Manuscripts
Topical Subject:
Nullification (States' rights)--History--19th century.
Geographic Subject:
Charleston (S.C.)
Language:
English
Shelving Locator:
MSS 0176 Box 1 Folder 14
S.C. County:
Charleston County (S.C.)
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600 dpi, 24-bit depth, color, Epson Expression 10000XL, Archival masters are tiffs.
Copyright Status Statement:
Public Domain.
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