Folder 03: CSC Report 7

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    Carolina ART Association GIBBES MEMORIA ART Gallery Charleston S C The Civic Services Committee of the Carolina Art Association met at the Gibbes Art Gallery, TuesdaAY February 8, 1944. Those present were; Mr. Homer M. place, Chairman, Mr. E. B. Chamberain , Mr. Frederick H. McDonad, Miss Alice R. H. Smith, Mr. R. N. S. Whitelaw, and the Secretary. The Chairman caed the meeting to order, and asked Mr. Whitelaw to discuss the points in the agenda sent to the members prior to the meeting. Mr. Whitelaw asked that Mr. place first review the planning agencies in the community and state and show the posters prepared for use in connection with taks that the Chairman will give to service Clubs in the ower part of the state. These agencies , Mr. place said , included the Preparedness Peace Commission , created by the State egisature; the State Board old development [unti recenty caed the State planning Board] ; State Ports huthority; State Highway Commission: County planning Comnission : the City Government as a municipal planner : the Chamber of Cormnerce which has recenty created a planning committee : and the Civic Services Committee. Merchants , industrial concerns , agricutura agencies , and individuals , he said, were also planners of the future . If these fai to measure up to their responsibiities , Mr. place said, Federal planning for , rather than by,Localcommunities was inevitable. Mr. Whitelaw reviewed the situation with regard to the Publication of the 1942 Report by the Secretary to the Committee. He said that Mr. Stoney had undertaken to revise it in order to make it a report from the Committee to the Community. He showed the preliminary dummy and indicated the aterations in format which were already determined upon. Mr. Whitelaw suggested that the report made by Mr. George W. Simons, Jr. to the Committee by pubished aso. He read parts of a letter from Mr. John Mead Howes commenting upon the Simons report and plan of procedure. Mr. Whitelaw then reveiwed briefy recent activities in planning in this community . Chairman and himsef, he said, had worked to prevent the pacing of a comfort station in a prominent situation in City Hall Park. The County egisative Deegation, he reported , had empoyed Mr. John Dotterer as engineer for the County planning Commission, at Mr. Dotterer"s own soicitation. He has been sent a cordia letter teing him of the work of the Civic Services Committee, its maps and studies, but as yet he has not responded nor asked to be shown the Committee"s resources. The Chamber of Commerce planning program, started as Publicity for the membership campaign , has empoyed Mr. John Cator for a period of six months with a fund subscribed by individuals; the Chamber is now appeaing to the County Deegation for an appropration 150,000 for post-war planning . [End Page 1] -2- Mr. Whitelaw asked if it was the wish of this committee to affiiate with any existing planning group, or to remain independent. Mr. place gave as his opinion that an independent course was best. Returning to the subject of Publications, Mr. Whitelaw suggested that the 1943 Simons Report, and parts of the 1940 Olmstead Report, and a brief history of the Civic Services Committee and its activities to date be pubished in order to show the community that another agency exists which is prepared to do a broad job of planning. This Publication could be sent out with invitations to new members, and used in other ways. In the discussion of Publication, it was brought out that this Committee should not be made to appear as a competitor of other planning groups, that its immediate and concrete goas, rather than its far-reaching impications, should be stressed. Mr. McDonad said the the Publication would present a pattern to which future community development could conform, and the Chairman said that city and other planning groups were seeking such a pattern. Mr. Whitelaw asked the opinion of the group upon another change of name for the Committee. The Chairman advocated adhering to the name under which the committee had won recognition and its present functioning. The matter of enarging the membership of the Committee was then taken up. Mr. Whitelaw advocated having an many community institutions and organizations represented in the membership as possibe, but did not recommend asking institutions and organizations to make apointments. The committee was in agreement with this principe. Before discussing the names of prospective members, Mr. Whitelaw asked that he be aowed to propose that the initial project in community planning to be undertaken by the Committee should be a solution of traffic problems. He read from the Olmstead report the paragraphs deaing with utilization of poory buit upon areas and empty lots for off-street parking areas. This probem, he phophesied, would become acute with the return of rationed gasoine and the manufacturing of automobies after the war. The Chairman caed for a discussion of tnis proposa. Mr. McDonad cited the experience at the Rotary Club in its traffic study , which the Police department had resented as interference, but which had finay, through tactfu management, been adopted and made the actua basis for present procedure in handing traffic offences . He advocated calling the program a "Study in provision for adequate parking spaces", rather than a traffic problems. This phase, he said, is at present no one"s concern and its connection with the Committee"s expressed function of preservation of architectural and atmospheric values will be immediatey obvious. The proposa and the amendment were agreed upon. Mr. Whitelaw asked if it would not be we, in taking new members into the Committee, to retain the present group as an executive body. Mr place cited the experience of the indus- [End Page 2] -3- tria Bureau as showing this to be a wise procedure, and the proposa was agreed upon. The Chairman wecomed Mr. Chamberain as a new member. To further emphasize the importance of having new member s represent ative of conmmnity organizations , Mr. Whitelaw read a ist of more than thirty cultural, civic , and service organi­zations now represented by the present membership of the committee. The new members proposed in the agenda sent out prior to the meeting represent an equa nunber of different organizations. After some discussion of the ist of proposed members , the following were eected A. W. Aison, J. Harod Easterby, R. P. Edmonds, George D. Grive, E. Bisse Jenkins, Jr. E. Darre Jervey , Mrs. W. A. Moore, Miss Mary Vardrine McBee, Creighton Frampton, Mrs. Martha . Patterson, Rene Ravene, G. . B. Rivers, George C. Rogers , Mrs. Harry M. Rubin, Herbert Ravene Sass, B. M. Thompson , and Mrs. Wilson wing . Mr. McDonad suggested that each be approached by a per­sona visit , rather than by a forma invitation. Mr. Whitelaw proposed that Mr. George W. Simons be retained as Consultant to the Commnittee. He said that Mr. Simons had been highy recommended by a reputable firm of awyers in Jacksonville f or his successfu eadership in planning and other comnmnity activities. The Chairman asked if it were possib e to retain Mr. Simons, financiay , and Mr. Whitelaw said that it was. Mr. McDonad said that he thought the empoyment of Mr . Simons would strengthen the effort of the committee, and his connec­tion should be mentioned in invitations to new members. It was therefore agreed that Mr. Simons be asked to act as consutant. The time limit set for the meet ing having been reached, the meeting then adjourned. Respectfuy submitted , Helen G. McCormack [End Page 3]
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    Carolina ART Association GIBBES MEMORIA ART Gallery Charleston S C The Civic Services Committee of the Carolina Art Association met at the Gibbes Art Gallery, TuesdaAY February 8, 1944. Those present were; Mr. Homer M. place, Chairman, Mr. E. B. Chamberain , Mr. Frederick H. McDonad, Miss Alice R. H. Smith, Mr. R. N. S. Whitelaw, and the Secretary. The Chairman caed the meeting to order, and asked Mr. Whitelaw to discuss the points in the agenda sent to the members prior to the meeting. Mr. Whitelaw asked that Mr. place first review the planning agencies in the community and state and show the posters prepared for use in connection with taks that the Chairman will give to service Clubs in the ower part of the state. These agencies , Mr. place said , included the Preparedness Peace Commission , created by the State egisature; the State Board old development [unti recenty caed the State planning Board] ; State Ports huthority; State Highway Commission: County planning Comnission : the City Government as a municipal planner : the Chamber of Cormnerce which has recenty created a planning committee : and the Civic Services Committee. Merchants , industrial concerns , agricutura agencies , and individuals , he said, were also planners of the future . If these fai to measure up to their responsibiities , Mr. place said, Federal planning for , rather than by,Localcommunities was inevitable. Mr. Whitelaw reviewed the situation with regard to the Publication of the 1942 Report by the Secretary to the Committee. He said that Mr. Stoney had undertaken to revise it in order to make it a report from the Committee to the Community. He showed the preliminary dummy and indicated the aterations in format which were already determined upon. Mr. Whitelaw suggested that the report made by Mr. George W. Simons, Jr. to the Committee by pubished aso. He read parts of a letter from Mr. John Mead Howes commenting upon the Simons report and plan of procedure. Mr. Whitelaw then reveiwed briefy recent activities in planning in this community . Chairman and himsef, he said, had worked to prevent the pacing of a comfort station in a prominent situation in City Hall Park. The County egisative Deegation, he reported , had empoyed Mr. John Dotterer as engineer for the County planning Commission, at Mr. Dotterer"s own soicitation. He has been sent a cordia letter teing him of the work of the Civic Services Committee, its maps and studies, but as yet he has not responded nor asked to be shown the Committee"s resources. The Chamber of Commerce planning program, started as Publicity for the membership campaign , has empoyed Mr. John Cator for a period of six months with a fund subscribed by individuals; the Chamber is now appeaing to the County Deegation for an appropration 150,000 for post-war planning . [End Page 1] -2- Mr. Whitelaw asked if it was the wish of this committee to affiiate with any existing planning group, or to remain independent. Mr. place gave as his opinion that an independent course was best. Returning to the subject of Publications, Mr. Whitelaw suggested that the 1943 Simons Report, and parts of the 1940 Olmstead Report, and a brief history of the Civic Services Committee and its activities to date be pubished in order to show the community that another agency exists which is prepared to do a broad job of planning. This Publication could be sent out with invitations to new members, and used in other ways. In the discussion of Publication, it was brought out that this Committee should not be made to appear as a competitor of other planning groups, that its immediate and concrete goas, rather than its far-reaching impications, should be stressed. Mr. McDonad said the the Publication would present a pattern to which future community development could conform, and the Chairman said that city and other planning groups were seeking such a pattern. Mr. Whitelaw asked the opinion of the group upon another change of name for the Committee. The Chairman advocated adhering to the name under which the committee had won recognition and its present functioning. The matter of enarging the membership of the Committee was then taken up. Mr. Whitelaw advocated having an many community institutions and organizations represented in the membership as possibe, but did not recommend asking institutions and organizations to make apointments. The committee was in agreement with this principe. Before discussing the names of prospective members, Mr. Whitelaw asked that he be aowed to propose that the initial project in community planning to be undertaken by the Committee should be a solution of traffic problems. He read from the Olmstead report the paragraphs deaing with utilization of poory buit upon areas and empty lots for off-street parking areas. This probem, he phophesied, would become acute with the return of rationed gasoine and the manufacturing of automobies after the war. The Chairman caed for a discussion of tnis proposa. Mr. McDonad cited the experience at the Rotary Club in its traffic study , which the Police department had resented as interference, but which had finay, through tactfu management, been adopted and made the actua basis for present procedure in handing traffic offences . He advocated calling the program a "Study in provision for adequate parking spaces", rather than a traffic problems. This phase, he said, is at present no one"s concern and its connection with the Committee"s expressed function of preservation of architectural and atmospheric values will be immediatey obvious. The proposa and the amendment were agreed upon. Mr. Whitelaw asked if it would not be we, in taking new members into the Committee, to retain the present group as an executive body. Mr place cited the experience of the indus- [End Page 2] -3- tria Bureau as showing this to be a wise procedure, and the proposa was agreed upon. The Chairman wecomed Mr. Chamberain as a new member. To further emphasize the importance of having new member s represent ative of conmmnity organizations , Mr. Whitelaw read a ist of more than thirty cultural, civic , and service organi­zations now represented by the present membership of the committee. The new members proposed in the agenda sent out prior to the meeting represent an equa nunber of different organizations. After some discussion of the ist of proposed members , the following were eected A. W. Aison, J. Harod Easterby, R. P. Edmonds, George D. Grive, E. Bisse Jenkins, Jr. E. Darre Jervey , Mrs. W. A. Moore, Miss Mary Vardrine McBee, Creighton Frampton, Mrs. Martha . Patterson, Rene Ravene, G. . B. Rivers, George C. Rogers , Mrs. Harry M. Rubin, Herbert Ravene Sass, B. M. Thompson , and Mrs. Wilson wing . Mr. McDonad suggested that each be approached by a per­sona visit , rather than by a forma invitation. Mr. Whitelaw proposed that Mr. George W. Simons be retained as Consultant to the Commnittee. He said that Mr. Simons had been highy recommended by a reputable firm of awyers in Jacksonville f or his successfu eadership in planning and other comnmnity activities. The Chairman asked if it were possib e to retain Mr. Simons, financiay , and Mr. Whitelaw said that it was. Mr. McDonad said that he thought the empoyment of Mr . Simons would strengthen the effort of the committee, and his connec­tion should be mentioned in invitations to new members. It was therefore agreed that Mr. Simons be asked to act as consutant. The time limit set for the meet ing having been reached, the meeting then adjourned. Respectfuy submitted , Helen G. McCormack [End Page 3]
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    Carolina ART Association GIBBES MEMORIA ART Gallery Charleston S C The Civic Services Committee of the Carolina Art Association met at the Gibbes Art Gallery, TuesdaAY February 8, 1944. Those present were; Mr. Homer M. place, Chairman, Mr. E. B. Chamberain , Mr. Frederick H. McDonad, Miss Alice R. H. Smith, Mr. R. N. S. Whitelaw, and the Secretary. The Chairman caed the meeting to order, and asked Mr. Whitelaw to discuss the points in the agenda sent to the members prior to the meeting. Mr. Whitelaw asked that Mr. place first review the planning agencies in the community and state and show the posters prepared for use in connection with taks that the Chairman will give to service Clubs in the ower part of the state. These agencies , Mr. place said , included the Preparedness Peace Commission , created by the State egisature; the State Board old development [unti recenty caed the State planning Board] ; State Ports huthority; State Highway Commission: County planning Comnission : the City Government as a municipal planner : the Chamber of Cormnerce which has recenty created a planning committee : and the Civic Services Committee. Merchants , industrial concerns , agricutura agencies , and individuals , he said, were also planners of the future . If these fai to measure up to their responsibiities , Mr. place said, Federal planning for , rather than by,Localcommunities was inevitable. Mr. Whitelaw reviewed the situation with regard to the Publication of the 1942 Report by the Secretary to the Committee. He said that Mr. Stoney had undertaken to revise it in order to make it a report from the Committee to the Community. He showed the preliminary dummy and indicated the aterations in format which were already determined upon. Mr. Whitelaw suggested that the report made by Mr. George W. Simons, Jr. to the Committee by pubished aso. He read parts of a letter from Mr. John Mead Howes commenting upon the Simons report and plan of procedure. Mr. Whitelaw then reveiwed briefy recent activities in planning in this community . Chairman and himsef, he said, had worked to prevent the pacing of a comfort station in a prominent situation in City Hall Park. The County egisative Deegation, he reported , had empoyed Mr. John Dotterer as engineer for the County planning Commission, at Mr. Dotterer"s own soicitation. He has been sent a cordia letter teing him of the work of the Civic Services Committee, its maps and studies, but as yet he has not responded nor asked to be shown the Committee"s resources. The Chamber of Commerce planning program, started as Publicity for the membership campaign , has empoyed Mr. John Cator for a period of six months with a fund subscribed by individuals; the Chamber is now appeaing to the County Deegation for an appropration 150,000 for post-war planning . [End Page 1] -2- Mr. Whitelaw asked if it was the wish of this committee to affiiate with any existing planning group, or to remain independent. Mr. place gave as his opinion that an independent course was best. Returning to the subject of Publications, Mr. Whitelaw suggested that the 1943 Simons Report, and parts of the 1940 Olmstead Report, and a brief history of the Civic Services Committee and its activities to date be pubished in order to show the community that another agency exists which is prepared to do a broad job of planning. This Publication could be sent out with invitations to new members, and used in other ways. In the discussion of Publication, it was brought out that this Committee should not be made to appear as a competitor of other planning groups, that its immediate and concrete goas, rather than its far-reaching impications, should be stressed. Mr. McDonad said the the Publication would present a pattern to which future community development could conform, and the Chairman said that city and other planning groups were seeking such a pattern. Mr. Whitelaw asked the opinion of the group upon another change of name for the Committee. The Chairman advocated adhering to the name under which the committee had won recognition and its present functioning. The matter of enarging the membership of the Committee was then taken up. Mr. Whitelaw advocated having an many community institutions and organizations represented in the membership as possibe, but did not recommend asking institutions and organizations to make apointments. The committee was in agreement with this principe. Before discussing the names of prospective members, Mr. Whitelaw asked that he be aowed to propose that the initial project in community planning to be undertaken by the Committee should be a solution of traffic problems. He read from the Olmstead report the paragraphs deaing with utilization of poory buit upon areas and empty lots for off-street parking areas. This probem, he phophesied, would become acute with the return of rationed gasoine and the manufacturing of automobies after the war. The Chairman caed for a discussion of tnis proposa. Mr. McDonad cited the experience at the Rotary Club in its traffic study , which the Police department had resented as interference, but which had finay, through tactfu management, been adopted and made the actua basis for present procedure in handing traffic offences . He advocated calling the program a "Study in provision for adequate parking spaces", rather than a traffic problems. This phase, he said, is at present no one"s concern and its connection with the Committee"s expressed function of preservation of architectural and atmospheric values will be immediatey obvious. The proposa and the amendment were agreed upon. Mr. Whitelaw asked if it would not be we, in taking new members into the Committee, to retain the present group as an executive body. Mr place cited the experience of the indus- [End Page 2] -3- tria Bureau as showing this to be a wise procedure, and the proposa was agreed upon. The Chairman wecomed Mr. Chamberain as a new member. To further emphasize the importance of having new member s represent ative of conmmnity organizations , Mr. Whitelaw read a ist of more than thirty cultural, civic , and service organi­zations now represented by the present membership of the committee. The new members proposed in the agenda sent out prior to the meeting represent an equa nunber of different organizations. After some discussion of the ist of proposed members , the following were eected A. W. Aison, J. Harod Easterby, R. P. Edmonds, George D. Grive, E. Bisse Jenkins, Jr. E. Darre Jervey , Mrs. W. A. Moore, Miss Mary Vardrine McBee, Creighton Frampton, Mrs. Martha . Patterson, Rene Ravene, G. . B. Rivers, George C. Rogers , Mrs. Harry M. Rubin, Herbert Ravene Sass, B. M. Thompson , and Mrs. Wilson wing . Mr. McDonad suggested that each be approached by a per­sona visit , rather than by a forma invitation. Mr. Whitelaw proposed that Mr. George W. Simons be retained as Consultant to the Commnittee. He said that Mr. Simons had been highy recommended by a reputable firm of awyers in Jacksonville f or his successfu eadership in planning and other comnmnity activities. The Chairman asked if it were possib e to retain Mr. Simons, financiay , and Mr. Whitelaw said that it was. Mr. McDonad said that he thought the empoyment of Mr . Simons would strengthen the effort of the committee, and his connec­tion should be mentioned in invitations to new members. It was therefore agreed that Mr. Simons be asked to act as consutant. The time limit set for the meet ing having been reached, the meeting then adjourned. Respectfuy submitted , Helen G. McCormack [End Page 3]
Title:
Folder 03: CSC Report 7
Creator:
Civic Services Committee
Date:
1948-02-08
Description:
Meeting minutes of the Civic Services Committee of the Carolina Art Association (Feb. 8, 1943).
Collection:
Civic Services Committee Papers
Contributing Institution:
Margaretta Childs Archives at Historic Charleston Foundation
Media Type:
Manuscripts
Personal or Corporate Subject:
Civic Services Committee--Records and correspondence
Series:
Folder 03: Meeting Minutes
Shelving Locator:
HCF 001
S.C. County:
Charleston County (S.C.)
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